Quick Group

[CADMonkey]

Hi all,

I just upgraded from 2002 to 2005 and cant find the group and ungroup buttons.

Are they still available in 2005 or have they been removed.

Thanks.

[Exxit]

Hi,
I think they are removed :cry: . What is the command in AC 2002. i can't find it. Maybe it was an added tool...?

Lothar

[csiarch]

Count your blessings....group command in previous versions is like an appendix; it's there but serves no useful purpose. 8)

[architech]

I never saw the need for "groups" ... but I'm not gonna dictate what to use here. But maybe it's something you learn to use on your own. MAC users or self taught users (in my travels) usually use this command.

Just an observation. :D
I could be wrong :?:

:arrow:

Ahhh..... anyway.
Those buttons don't exist. But you can make your own.
The command still exists.

your button should read ....

^c^c_group


Hope that helps.
:mrgreen:

[csiarch]

Architech: I'm self-taught and don't use groups because.....

I once was working on a hotel remodeling project where i needed to move a lot of balcony railings around. Drew one, copied and grouped it. Then copied the groups around instead of making it into a block. DUHHH!

File size quickly grew beyond reason before I figured out what was going on.
Had to "back out" of the nested groups with a lot of ungroup sequences and fiddling around. Guess if I had been "formally trained" -or was some intuitive whiz kid, I would have written a lisp routine or created some buttons....and probably by this time would still be trying to complete the project.

Live and learn, I guess.... :roll:

[Exxit]

Hi,

maybe cadmonkey will explain how he/she works in AC. I never have used groups too.Here's one solution:
^C^C-GROUP;;*;;\; (Cadmonkey knows this macro from annother forum :wink: )

But I enjoy unnamed blocks. Advantage: You havn't a new object (like a group) and You can explode it with _explode. There's no need for a new commmand....

later, Lothar

[CADMonkey]

Let me clarify a few things, first I moved from AutoCAD 2002LT to AutoCAD 2005 (full version)

In 2002LT I use quick groups, which for a quick explanation is basically a fast, easy way to group/block a series off lines together with out the need to name them, as you have to do when using the group manager or the block command.

Once quick grouped you can move the selected lines around easily, grip and move lines within the selected group, trim lines so on as where once blocked you would have to explode it to do such things.

I use blocks for a lot off stuff too but find the quick group function fast and easier within individual drawings than blocking every thing plus I hate having to name every thing, just a waste off time.


Those buttons don't exist. But you can make your own.
The command still exists.

your button should read ....

^c^c_group

:mrgreen:

Thanks but can you point me in the right direction to where I can learn more about making my own buttons.


But I enjoy unnamed blocks. Advantage: You havn't a new object (like a group) and You can explode it with _explode. There's no need for a new commmand....


How do you make blocks that do not require to be named.

[Exxit]

Hi,

here's a tutorial for customize a button and macro (http://www.caddigest.com/subjects/autocad/tutorials/select/parsai_user_buttons.htm). Here's my macro for unnamed block. The inserationpoint is at 0,0...

^C^C_copybase;0,0;\\;_erase;_p;;_pasteblock;0,0;

later, Lothar

[CADMonkey]

Thanks for the help Exxit, much appreciated

[mkroen]

Cadmonkey, I came from Microstation and unnamed "quick groups" are definitely very helpful. I don't know why AutoCAD hasn't incorporated them into use yet.
Anyways, I've got the group macro working, but my explode won't break the group up? Did you have this problem too? ANy suggestions?