The correct thing to say?

[wardyboi]

I have to admit I pretty much love an argument if the climate is right.. I mean if someone is mistaken about something I'm fairly familiar with, I'll argue my point.
With my male friends this is usually quite fun and involving, especially when other people become involved and start taking sides. It all usually ends with one of us realising we were wrong and thanking the other person for their enlightenment in a mature manner (a wedgie or something).
Subsequently this is always fun and never taken too seriously (at least not for very long).

Key points to note are.

1. The argument has a reason
2. Each person states their view in turn
3. Once its over, its over!

Now you may wonder where I'm going with this, but bear with me a moment longer, all will be revealed.

In light of the previous statements in the paragraphs above, I would like you to answer me this....

Why is it that when I argue with my girlfriend (sorry dearest!), that none of these rules seem to apply?

I shall continue and expand upon my thoughts and experiences.....

Firstly I can never seem to say the right thing. If I apologise, I get told to shove it. If I make a valid point, it is quickly stamped down or dismissed.

New points are now to be considered.

1. Arguments do not need a reason, or indeed a purpose to continue.
2. When she speaks I listen, when I speak she interrupts.
3. Once its over, its far from over.
4. It is possible to draw, at any time, from the back catologue of previous arguments.

With these new points now in mind it quickly becomes apparent that all hope is lost. I daren't apologise or attempt to end the argument in any amicable manner, this WILL end in failure. So what options do I have left? Do I cry and hope she feels sorry for me? Maybe earplugs are an option.

Finally and most importantly

WOMEN WILL NEVER LET MAKING SENSE GET IN THE WAY OF A GOOD ARGUMENT - Chris Rock.


So the next time your 'better half' is giving you the verbal beat down.. remember this post, you are not alone.


Anyway tell me your thoughts gents, share my pain!
and ladies, reply to prove your innocence, explain to me why this happens!

[VERYCIVILDRAFTER]

If it helps any;
I'm a firm believer in the idea that 'some' females learn at a young age that they can manipulate and direct/destroy little boys with a couple of tactics... Total irrationalism, what you motioned above, and boobies.

[mom of 3]

y'all just knew that I'd get in on this one, right?

first - I agree with the "boobie" comment that VCD made - those seem to get in the way sometimes, so you boys don't bother paying attention to what's being argued/discussed in the first place.
:lol:
ok, seriously -
second - I think Wardyboi just confirmed for me that my ex is a **** freak..........
1. Arguments do not need a reason, or indeed a purpose to continue.
2. When she speaks I listen, when I speak she interrupts.
3. Once its over, its far from over.
4. It is possible to draw, at any time, from the back catologue of previous arguments.
he does ALL OF THE ABOVE!!!!!!!!!!!! he is always talking over me, he is ALWAYS bringing stuff back up, even though I've been out of, well, it was MY house but I let him keep the POS, for 5+ yrs, things are NEVER over for him...........

ok, anyway, where was I going with this post..........oh yeah, women & arguing.........Wardyboi, don't give in (or any of you, for that matter). I seem not to be a typical woman in a lot of ways. I'd rather each side give their opinion & let it go. I think that a lot of the way a woman handles an argument/discussion depends on how weak or strong they are/we raised to be. I look at my mother, who would do that same thing that you were describing & I just shake my head. if there's to be a discussion, there's no reason to drag it out! just express the points, accept that the views may be differing & let it go. I really have no good answer, other than some women may still classify themselves as the "weaker sex" & think they need to manipulate men to get what they want. I don't like that, I don't do that, but I can see why it would happen.

did I make that a very long-winded "response"????????? :?

[Eddie]

8) Well....what a can of worms you opened up wardyboi..!!!

when it comes to arguing with my missus...I listen to her ... have my say (if she won't let me I get LOUDER which is rare) ... and usually one of us realises the whom was right/wrong and appologies(if necessary)
But my missus has a habit of bring up little things from the past...and just picks away with little comments (I told her she did this, one day...her mother is the same)...until one day I EXPLODED :twisted: :evil: and gave one hell of an argument....
Now days... she rarely picks or brings up previous issues...when we argue we uaually make up pretty quickly....

And when she realises she wrong ... that's when either the boobies or similar surface to break the ice...

[wardyboi]

I got the replies I was looking for. I'm not alone!!

Still one fact will remain, as short and sweet as vcd's post was, I'ts true.

Chest ornaments win, everytime.

[Eddie]

:shock: No don't do it .... don't fall for those FUN BAGS

What am i saying....(smack himself few times)

Go for it...YEAH to boobies... :D

[VERYCIVILDRAFTER]

so you boys don't bother paying attention to what's being argued/discussed in the first place.

It's like the two eyes :wink: of a hurricane. Quiet bliss in the middle of a storm that will bring havoc to everything in it's path. :lol:

[wardyboi]

We're even delving into breast philosophy now.... It shows how dependant we have become.

[mom of 3]

you guys make me laugh!!!!!!!!!!! I wish I worked with boys like you! it'd make all my stressful times seem..........well, less stressful!
:mrgreen:

(I'll keep my "boobies" to myself, thanks..........not delving into that subject any further that I already have.........) :roll: