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csiarch
19-08-2004, 09:00 PM
Hasenpfeffer for breakfast? How cruel!

For VERYCIVILDRAFTER: Did you ever look at the upload I left for you on CADCHAT? (Modified Simplex font)?????????

VERYCIVILDRAFTER
20-08-2004, 04:54 PM
Yeah, I've got a copy of it, and tried it out. I decided that distributing and implementing it throughout my office would be more hassle that it was worth. They will use FL (for flow line), and they will like it! :twisted:
8) Maybe I'm just lazy.
:D You guys were a lot of help though, I learned a ton. :D

csiarch
20-08-2004, 10:23 PM
To: VCD: I also posted an editable attribute block to use instead of the modified Simplex. Did you try that out?

Don't really understand how implementing a different font would be a big hassle. All they really have to do is redefine text styles to point to the modified one instead of the "old" simplex.

In any event, the editable attribute block is less hassle.

To each his own, I guess.

VERYCIVILDRAFTER
23-08-2004, 04:48 PM
To: VCD: I also posted an editable attribute block to use instead of the modified Simplex. Did you try that out?

Don't really understand how implementing a different font would be a big hassle. All they really have to do is redefine text styles to point to the modified one instead of the "old" simplex.

In any event, the editable attribute block is less hassle.


Well, I was trying to spare everyone the boring details but if you wish to know.

My office was in the middle of a large construction plan set at the time (it was three months behind schedule the day the developer told us to start), and we had already been using "FLOW LINE" and "CENTERLINE" (typed out) on all street, sanitary, storm, and water construction sheets.

short version: It wasn't that important, and it would have been a distraction.

long version: I made the decision that the man hours we would use to spend changing the plans and detracting from productive work were more of a detriment to our schedule and billable time than it was worth. Also, there's the possibility that some of labels might have missed the change and we would have had inconsistencies (however minor) in our construction plans. I didn’t issue the font anyway and tell people to use it after that project was done, because I felt my time was best spent finishing my portion of the construction plans. I didn't use the attribute block because most times we use FL or CL it is within a sentence of mtext.

Right now would actually be a good time to switch to the new font since we have a new project just kicking off. Thanks for reminding me.

csiarch
23-08-2004, 10:03 PM
VCD: Thanks for taking the time to explain. At least I knwo I didn't waste my time doing something that wasn't even looked at. I fixed up an ISO font for an Aussie a little while back and I still don't know whether it solved his problem or not.

Try out one (or both) of the attached fonts. I know Romans isn't quite the same as Simplex but the only real differences between the two are where the characters start. Simplex characters have no leading space; Romans does, Otherwise, they're about the same.

Both fonts have all those PL, CL, Fl characters built in plus several more that occasionally come in handy.

VERYCIVILDRAFTER
24-08-2004, 03:59 PM
I checked out the fonts you posted, they have a nice comprehensive group of symbols.

But I have a little problem, and maybe its related to me having to use Acad r14. When I type in the Unicodes into mtext I'm running into (Autocad R14) not showing the symbol but showing \u+nnnn (nnnn= number). But if I edit the text and then just click okay, the symbol shows up. :? Weird...

csiarch
25-08-2004, 02:11 AM
VCD: Can't help you with the mtext anamoly; I tried using mtext years back (I think in R11 or 12) and, admittedly being less experienced at the time, had so much trouble with it that I have never used it since. From some of the posts I've read about mtext on other forums, nothing has convinced me to try it again.

By the way, both fonts were compiled using the R14 compiler so it may be a R14 subroutine issue rather than incompatibility with the version.

My own version of Mtext is a 3 line editable attribute block which I think is easier to use in some respects but it does not have text wrapping and some of the other features built-in to mtext.

The two fonts have the flow, base and monument line symbols that autocad added in the fonts shipped with 2005 version so you're right up to date.
Enjoy; technically these fonts belong to autodesk but I'll be damned if I can get anyone over there to look at them even though they're coded more efficiently than what they ship now. Oh, well!