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cadavatar
24-02-2004, 03:35 PM
My company mainly supports the utility industry. Our clients are typically slow to update their CAD software, which means we usually use the same versions to ensure compatibility and reduct other complications.

We've been using AutoCAD R14 for years, and recently have been using more 2000i because a newer project requires it.

We're having a heck of a time with 2000i's plotting features. Problems started popping up when users sent plots that were coming out 1/2 or 1 inch too small in both directions.

I did a little research, and determined that I needed to create a PC3 file with settings changed to enlarge the printable area, and reduce the margins.

Thinking everything was fine, I went back to what I was doing before - until the users came back to me with undersized sheets. I had to do another round of fighting with these needlessly complicated features to try to achieve the most basic of functions... getting an accurately-sized print.

Well, they ended up coming back and back again until I implemented a stopgap measure - save back to R14 and plot using familiar and reliable tools to get useable prints.

I'm an advocate of simplicity.

When I look at AutoCAD, I compare it to MicroStation, Cadvance, TurboCad and everything else I've used. I always compare anything I use with everything else that's similar in function. It's in my nature.

I am VERY upset with autodesk, not with the scope of what they added in terms of features, but with the way they implemented them into 2000i. There are multiple, separate dialogs - needlessly. The whole thing is a confusing mess.

My writing this is more of a catharsis than anything else. I just need to rant, but if anyone out there has a really good tutorial available, please let me know.

CADMAN
24-02-2004, 04:30 PM
Hi, Welcome to the forum

I hope someone can help :D

cadavatar
24-02-2004, 09:23 PM
I guess the worst of it is the fact that they did this margin/printable area thing. This would have been helpful when we were using pen plotters, but it's not necessary. I've worked with hundreds of people ofer most of the last 2 decades on CAD, and never heard someone say "hmmm... I wish AutoCAD had a margin thingy". :wink:

The only time things get tricky is when you're trying to print a 36" x 48" drawing... then you have to deal with working around a 1/2", physically unprintable area at the top & bottom (with the HP 1000 series printers we use)... and that's not a big deal to work around.

Margins were hardly justification for adding such confusion to the software.

Oh, well... that's "outght to CAD" for ya... :roll:

(sorry... just letting off more steam) :evil:

I'm going through the learning assistance disk presently. It's well-made, considering the formidable task of providing autocad instruction.

more later.

architech
27-02-2004, 06:57 PM
See my reply under the "2000" forum.

Hope that helps.... :P :!: